Do Not Trust D.M. Hutchins

Update: There has raged a pretty lengthy conversation in the comments section of this article between Hutchins and I, along with some commentary from other noted figures. To date, D.M. Hutchins has attacked me, in this thread for the following:
(X) Making Youtube videos, which is apparently beneath true Alchemists
(X) Not having a fancy camera for my Youtube videos
(X) Having too small of a vocabulary, which means I am immature/undeveloped
(X) Having too big of a vocabulary, which makes me mundane
(X) Having too little relevance/influence
(X) Being too influential and thus “impressing plebians”
(X) Not thinking less of fellow black magickian Yuri M. for being goth
(X) Not being heterosexual

To date, D.M. Hutchins has offered no legitimate critique whatsoever of the following
(X) My ritual style
(X) My original magickal chants
(X) My commentaries on Demonology
(X) My teachings regarding the hidden chakras
(X) My personal gnosis
(X) My critiques of the ONA and 218 Tradition
(X) My insights regarding the Sevenfold Way
(X) My understanding of the True Will, Higher Self, Body-Soul-Spirit Triangle, etc.

In addition to this, D.M. Hutchins has constructed a new article about me, apparently comprised entirely of callow misconceptions, puerile fallacies of reasoning, and bold and deliberate lies. I have briefly reviewed and rebutted the parts of the article I have had the patience to read in the following video. As I have not and will not read the entirety of the article failing a request to do so from a reader, anyone who would like specific points of the article addressed may bring them to my attention themselves.

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158 thoughts on “Do Not Trust D.M. Hutchins

  1. I have known Darryl Hutchins since he appeared on the “satanic scene” 2009-2010. This behaviour is nothing new from him. The only reason for my comment here is to correct a slight mis-fact you have presented here. Darryl has not ever been associated with the Cult of Cthulhu at any point in its history. I think it is only fair to state that there has never been any bad blood between Darryl and myself. Darryl and Venger on the other hand, I cannot say the same of. The didn’t get along from the word “go”. I can also point to a great number of o9a 1.0-2.0-3.0 (whatever iteration) interested individuals, which have either rubbed with him or outright held disdain for him. He has been “fixing” the o9a since he heard of them.

    I would like to caution you against taking his “defamation” or “slander” too personally. I mean after all, they are simply words on the internet, which only hold the value or weight you assign to them. You’re a bright kid, and I like the work you are putting in; I would hate to see you spend too much energy on this inconsequential irrelevance. I am reminded of an expression, “Joke them, if they can’t take a fuck”.

    Anyway…

    -BX

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    1. Thank you for the correction, T.C., I’m not sure exactly how that myth got started, other than that I associated with Sin Jones during the time when she was the little birdie in Venger’s ear, as he pretended to have all of these great and totally original ideas for the Cult of Cthulhu, achieving nothing more, in my personal opinion, than yet another internet forum where a collective of pseudosatanist formed so as to pat one another on the back, under this self attributed title or that. But you are correct, Derek never gained my respect whatsoever, nor did the Cult of Cthulhu. I did watch a film pertaining to the history of Scientology recently though, and I can never seem to see or hear that name without seeing Dereks dumb ass rubbing green good on some pitiful woman whom he had impregnated, dedicating the child to this god or that, only for all of us to laugh our asses off at the photos of himself in a Catholic Church service of some sort…

      As for this “inconsequential irrelevance”, it certainly is exactly that, an overblown misunderstanding whereas the outcome has become a situation whereas I am supposedly in a “beef” with someone, while in reality I don’t even look at the internet on a daily basis. Our Temple Wilderness friends seem to have an interest in this issue, however, as they notified me within seconds of this videos posting, directly asking for a response, and even saying please. Of course once I reply everyone will flip-flop and spin my reply as being one who is obsessed with the internet and childish drama, but thats the modern ONA that we are dealing with, and no individual will ever own that shame because they are all cowards hiding behind a thousand false names.

      I reply simply because I agree that VK is indeed a bright kid, and because ultimately nothing matters between VK and I, other than our personal exchanges, which other people and their opinions and agendas will only skew. In all honesty I believe that VK is being “buttered up” as I once was. Its amazing how many ONA cats will come out of the woodwork to coddle a new face, especially if they believe you to be beneficial to their personal agendas, but VK will learn just as I did, that as soon as you voice an independent ideal or contradict one of them, the whole house of cards will crumble and people you have known for nearly eight years will pretend they never knew you, lol. It just part of the learning process. People should take to heart that sentiment you offer whereby words have no more value than you assign to them, to say nothing of how they have been interpreted correctly or not. And I do mean everyone.

      I will reply to the above video when I have the time, as well as a handful of articles written by the VK individual. I too see him going places, and so it is that if this beef is to be maintained, others will have to maintain it. I simply have no anger for this guy or his ideals. To a certain extent, looking at VK is a bit like looking into a mirror. We have drastically different styles, and interest, but I see a similar gaining of ones feet that I myself once endured. I have learned that energy is energy, and so people can send me their love, their hate, and their curiosity, and I will have the same consistent and objective message for them to consider.

      I’m up to my ears in Corpus Nine Thirteen review commentaries and half written essays, but I’ll see to this VK issue in the next day or two, for what its worth. Its good to see your name still pop up from time to time T.C. Honor to you and yours.

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      1. “But you are correct, Derek never gained my respect whatsoever, nor did the Cult of Cthulhu.”

        And yet you wrote an article about Interrogistic respect for the Cult of Cthulhu’s webzine. Odd.
        Even after perusing the writings of yours entrusted to me by a friend in common, that essay did not appear in any of it.

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        1. All of my essays and books are public information, and all of them included within Corpus Nine Thirteen. I have more witnesses than I can count, and T.C. was there all the while. I assure you, Sir, that I at no time wrote any such article. I wrote an article more than five years ago which I titled something like “Interrogist Respect and Effective Dialog”, though it has nothing to do whatsoever with the Cult of Cthulhu. You are mistaken, again… Here is a free PDF copy of Corpus Nine Thirteen, https://hutchinsdm.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/corpus-nine-thirteen.pdf …the section you are talking about is located in section (4.7) Interrogistic Respect and Effective Dialog – page 77, and it addresses the issues of Personal Judgment, What is respect, and Who Deserves Respect? The Cult of Cthulhu is not mentioned once, and I had no idea, until you posted it here, that they even had a webzine.

          Serious question here… Where are you getting your information? I have hundreds of witnesses across nearly eight years. None of these accusation represent reality. Ask T.C. He had much more interaction with Cult of Cthulhu than I did, and so he could verify the verisimilitude of your claim. Some one if feeding you nonsense, my friend.

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      2. “Our Temple Wilderness friends seem to have an interest in this issue, however, as they notified me within seconds of this videos posting, directly asking for a response, and even saying please.”

        Now, that’s just weird. I always thought TW’s interest in my writings was strange. Really not sure what to make of this.

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        1. With all due respect, and I’m being serious and not patronizing, if you would but calm down and stop approaching everything as though it were a fight, you’d find that there are many very cool people interested in your writings, but you attitude and constant attacks on things prevents you from being contacted by the. Trust me on this, I’ve been around a good long while, and I came in kicking and screaming too. Many Nexion refused to even acknowledge my existence, however, once I matured a bit and got my legs under me, and simply affirmed my position in a dignified and well produced manner, many, including TW came to have a chat, exchange information, et al.

          To be completely honest, I’d say that TW are experimenting with creating a conflict between you and I, either to see if you can cause me to regress to my former hubris (which I certainly will not), or to see how you are able to handle yourself in a genuine debate with a true alchemist like myself. They will get no show out of me, as they know exactly where I stand, and from where I come (all context). I call you my friend even now because I can see your potential, however, you should carefully select your words and behavior for the duration of our engagement, as obviously you, or we both, are being observed and judged, and while I could care less who thinks what, you are not yet afforded that particular ONA-luxury. The difference here being that I see this dialectic agenda for what it is, and thus it has no influence upon my perception, interactions, or personal standards. You should ask yourself the same questions. I will provide my point of view in a post pertaining to yourself, and my relationship to you, insofar as we have briefly interacted. Expect it in the following days.

          Honor to you and yours.

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          1. Question: in the tradition of ONA (judging by the texts) it is considered that Azoth is Mercury + Sulfur + Salt, but others believed that Azoth is Mercury. In fact, there is no strong contradiction in this. Tell me please, why, in fact, there is no antagonism in these points of view?

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          2. To be completely honest, I’d say that TW are experimenting with creating a conflict between you and I, either to see if you can cause me to regress to my former hubris (which I certainly will not) or to see how you are able to handle yourself in a genuine debate… you should carefully select your words and behavior… as obviously you, or we both, are being observed and judged…”

            Self-delusional crap. And misdiagnosis.

            You are simply a little bit socially awkward and keep pissing everyone off. Then those whom you pissed off might as well spread gossip about you.

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      1. I just plugged “Green Trapezoid” into a search engine and it led me here (http://cocthulhu.proboards.com/).

        Can you kindly point to the section which you believe that I have therein written. I am respectfully requesting evidence for your claim, even though this tends to be the nature of what you consider to be our disagreements. There isn’t actually even a disagreement here, as I have never done the thing you are accusing me of, and if I had done this thing, there would certainly be evidence to demonstrate that I had. So where is this evidence? Who are your witnesses? Where are you getting this information?

        “Prove your case or withdraw your claim.”
        “If you continue to make assertions for which there is no evidence, I will end this conversation.”

        Were these not the very words that initiated the altercation you believe that we had on another network? You are better than this VK, and there are way too many people who simply know better, many of them having been here as long as myself, or longer.

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          1. What on Earth makes you think I am looking for friends here? This is not a popularity contest. I’m here to expose the truth, and so I do. What you think or feel is not important. There was a time many years ago when things were very different. I strive to maintain a certain level of that former maturity and insight. It took several years for it to take root within myself, and so I will endure this foolishness for as many years, as it may possibly take root in you. But make no mistake, I do not like you, and we are not friends.

            I tolerate you, I endure you, as I was once tolerated and endured by others (when I absolutely didn’t deserve it), and in you I see the hubris that I was once guilty of. In some of you I see the same potential which lead to my own transmutation. Perhaps Kali will stricken you as well, but that is not for me to say. I have an assignment, and I man my station. Nothing more and nothing less. You feel free to justify your stasis in whatever manner you wish, but know that it is your own, and not something we share. Good day to you.

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            1. look no further friend. they’re nowhere to be found – there’s a saying I know that goes quit while you’re still located..fuck you

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            2. “What on Earth makes you think I am looking for friends here?”
              You expect Niners or ONA-associated people to adopt a moniker, “Interrogist,” which moniker refers to an ideology based entirely upon your own thoughts (obviously you draw various influences from prior thinkers but you are the only person who writes for Nexion 913). This is completely unprecedented for the ONA/ONA-associated movement(s). NO ONE ELSE does this.
              In addition to this, you tried to rope five or six people I know of into this “ONA 4.0” thing you wanted to start. And now you’re claiming not to be trying to accumulate friends? What the fuck are you thinking?

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            3. I expect no such thing, lol, and in fact I haven’t mentioned that term in nearly five years. It has, however, echoed throughout ONA because others maintain it. In jest I offered the title Interrogist 2 to a friend.

              If you aim to insult me by announcing my non-conformity to ONA, I’ll actually take that as a compliment. Thank you very much. You even put “NO ONE ELSE” in all caps… Thanks again.

              As for 4.0, such is a numerical reference to the ongoing iterations of ONA mutations, coined in fact by that same friend. 4.0 will become a reference to that causal duration in which ONA made a difficult transition from Traditional Satanic agendas unto Numinous Way(s), and my invitation is to everyone. You can read it here; [V.K. Jehannum Does Not Allow Unapproved Advertising on His Blog] It will happen, it has happened. An aeonic perspective would suggest the dignity of one recognizing that which is to come, and working their works accordingly, rather than that myopic scope of the layman, whose attention, and whose works are thus somewhat more limited. You will play a part either way, in fading accusation, or dawning proclamation. Your choice, VK.

              I’m thinking, of the future, and its effect on the past…

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            4. Welp, you’ve claimed not to be “looking for friends,” and now you’re here repeatedly advertising your work on my blog. Your comment will be edited to omit the hyperlink, but I should hope that the readers will note your desperation for attention.

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            5. The two free PDF files which I have shared links to, explain in further totality my perspective and position. If you were to read them, this conversation would make much more sense, and you’d realize that this is neither a competition, nor an opportunity to make friends. So edit my comments and links if you feel that it is necessary, but know that you (and everyone else here) are welcome to post any of your own materials and links on my personal blog, and that I will not edit them in any way. I simply don’t feel threatened by them. I do tend to screen shot my own comments, however, as so many others alter, distort, and modify them, to suit their own agendas.

              This argument between us does not exist. I welcome you to civil discussion, and the putting aside of petty differences, that in the grander scale of things are not so important. When you are ready, of course.

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            6. Hallow platitudes, VK. You’re beginning to sound like them. Look at what I’ve said, and attempt to process it, rather than simply react to it with presupposition.

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            7. Oh I processed that shit fine. The fact that you think I would succumb to such vacuous manipulations is too preposterous to be insulting. A man can only underestimate you so much before all you can conclude is that the motherfucker’s delusional.

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            8. The fact that you feel underestimated is your own psychological issue to work out, just as your high school vocabulary that utterly reeks of Chloe… We, all of us, have our personal issues, and then there are those aggregate issues which we share. I would suggest that you refrain from conflating the two, or taking personally that which is offered as a general observation. After all, I’m supposed to be the one with the ego problem, remember? Your insecurities will pass with time and experience, as will, hopefully, your speech mature. You may curse at me and insult me all you wish, VK, but in the end the outcome will be the same, and I will have no animosity towards you. I have stood where you stand, walked in your shoes, so to speak. This is all simply part of the process. There will come a time when you will realize that such disposition and emotional attachment hinder your ability to move forward. Ask yourself what is more important. Rubbing elbows with allegedly authoritative anonymous internet cowards, or your own personal Great Work, your own Alchemical quest? Your choice thus far is rather obvious.

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            9. Insulting my vocabulary is petty as fuck. You look down on your interlocutors for their use of small words, and yet you claim to have been a fucking Crip? Please.

              And you speak of maturity when your conduct leads people to think you are 19 years old? What are you, Peter Pan?

              You insulted Yuri M.’s CLOTHING. Why would a near 40-year-old ever attack a 30-something’s goddamn apparel?

              “You may curse at me and insult me all you wish, VK, but in the end the outcome will be the same, and I will have no animosity towards you.”

              Last I heard, the outcome was me breaking your reputation so badly that you deleted all your social media.

              “I have stood where you stand, walked in your shoes, so to speak.”

              Produce an article on demonology as good as mine or take a few martial arts before you make such a claim. I’ll never be pretentious enough to complain about vocabulary. Keep in mind that the magickal chants I have personally created come from five different languages.

              “Ask yourself what is more important. Rubbing elbows with allegedly authoritative anonymous internet cowards, or your own personal Great Work, your own Alchemical quest? Your choice thus far is rather obvious.”

              I’d been planning to make an article or video blasting your bitch ass for months before I finally got around to it, so yes, my choice was obvious, but you were too stupid to perceive what it was. I’ve also self-initiated through all ten spheres of the Qliphoth, multiple spheres which are not included in the Tree of Death, and all 22 pathways, all done before I made this shit. And again, you were slandering me long before I ever spoke against your name, so this claim is even more pathetic.

              Speaking of Chloe, who has a far more respectable name than your own, she has written an article about you which is most revealing. Judging by the fact that you adduced her despite her irrelevance to the subject at hand, she must have cut deep, Peter Pan. I’m pretty sure I’ve never spoken to the infamous Chloe 352, but I imagine she won’t mind me hyperlinking her shit here. Voila.
              https://chloe352.wordpress.com/2017/05/30/notes-on-darryl/

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            10. Dunno, VK, but I don’t find this article revealing. If she considered Darryl unreliable, dishonorable and disliked him altogether, then why did she give him MSS that were supposedly confidential? And if those MSS are crap, then why make such a fuss about them being revealed to the public? You know, labirinthos mythologicus and all that jazz, the more people are fooled, the better. They should be happy about that. Why bother then?

              Don’t get me wrong. I agree she’s a much better writer than Darryl but I wouldn’t take anyone’s words at face value.

              I also wonder why she’s so invested in Darryl, considering he’s a harmless village idiot. I’m all for calling people out on their bullshit but empty name calling and posting silly pictures is more akin to school yard fight, not even evil, just childish.

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            11. “If she considered Darryl unreliable, dishonorable and disliked him altogether, then why did she give him MSS that were supposedly confidential? ”
              It is clear in the article that she did not consider him dishonorable until after he released the manuscripts.

              “And if those MSS are crap, then why make such a fuss about them being revealed to the public?”
              For one, it’s a massive betrayal of trust either way. Furthermore, the article declares only that the “official story” about the BG is that it is a forgery, hinting that it isn’t. And even if Beawules Gast is a forgery as some have said, which claim I doubted to begin with, no one whatsoever has made the claim that Myndsquilver was forgery, so the complaint stands even if Beawules Gast was a falsification as Wyrdsister has claimed.

              “Don’t get me wrong. I agree she’s a much better writer than Darryl but I wouldn’t take anyone’s words at face value.”
              Welp, BG and MQ do both have “not for publication” written clearly on every page of them, and I can’t name anyone else who has released it publicly. Even I had never fuckin heard of the articles before Nexion 913 released them, so all evidence points in her favor. I mean maybe she fudged some details, and that’s a big maybe, but the overall narrative still holds.

              “I also wonder why she’s so invested in Darryl, considering he’s a harmless village idiot. I’m all for calling people out on their bullshit but empty name calling and posting silly pictures is more akin to school yard fight, not even evil, just childish.”
              How long do you think she’s been dealing with this motherfucker and getting complained to by her friends about him? That shit would start to piss anyone off by this point, especially with how disrespectful Hutchins is towards her.

              I feel like you should’ve gotten a coffee or something before you made this comment. I mean you’re just way off the mark here. It’s unlike you.

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            12. “It is clear in the article that she did not consider him dishonorable until after he released the manuscripts.”

              But in reality the animosity between the two was well years before he obtained and published those oh so precious MSS. This is why it smells fishy to me. As TC Downey rightly said, Darryl has always been like that. He hasn’t changed a bit. So why suddenly trust someone you dislike and know who and what he is?

              I also haven’t seen Darryl being disrespectful to Chloe. To some other people yes, but to her no. I would wish to see some evidence for that. On the other hand, not my circus, not my monkeys, I only think empty name calling is immature. Even mockery is more effective if supported with arguments. Not talking about you, man, just all those sock puppets.

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            13. (1) I am/was indeed Crip for more than a decade, which you are welcome test at your leisure.

              (2) I attacked Yuri M because he dresses like a woman and is a bisexual and homosexual. I would mock him as thus regardless of my age or his own. You seem not to notice the Magians attack on the Sacred Masculine, which further demonstrates that neither of you know what the Sacred Masculine or Feminine is, and that neither you nor he, are genuine Alchemist. Invent all new “pronouns” you wish, and hold if you will a mouthful of penis… but know that your are an abomination, and praising the enemy camp.

              (3) I have no emotional or egoic attachment to your internet post, I am not broken whatsoever, and had I deleted all of my social media, how then are all of my accounts still there, and how do we now have this conversation? You seem to be confused, again. All that was deleted was my Facebook account, which I only use on occasion say once or twice a year, and for no more than a few weeks at a time. If you makes you feel like a man to believe that you somehow “ran me off”, lol, I’ll allow you your moment, but then, here we are, talking, thus “ran off” I am not.

              (4) Demonology must be the single most ridiculous form of the pseudo occult of them all… And you, young man, are indeed the very core of pretentiousness. Of all your “personally written chants”, and those five languages you used therein, how many of those languages did you personally write? I’d say not one. You are asking for praise due to something that predates you by thousands of years, just as all the ONA does. The source you are not… (facepalm)

              (5) Have you ever noticed, VK, that every time you attempt to brag on yourself, all you can do is point to preexisting religious systems, and boast “Look! Look! I have slightly altered and laid claim to this as well!” … Its cute, really.

              (6) If you would be so kind, I would ask that you allow Chloe and I, because I do know her/them personally, and have for years, to conduct our own affairs. I am aware of the post to which you linked, and I am preparing a reply which I will post when I am good and ready. The fact that you would blindly believe anything Chloe post as being true, without conducting your own investigation, is telling. You are that sort of guy who shows up to an amazing party just before it ends, but then spends several days pompously announcing that you were the life of said party… The discussion you have welcomed yourself to had been in progress for nearly a decade before anyone knew you even existed, VK. Seriously, who are you again? Demon Books, LMMFAO… Have a nice day man, lol.

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            14. And by the way, I took an aptitude test when I was in high school. My personal vocabulary was off the actual charts– they had never had a test subject score that high before. I often write in a simplistic way because, when I speak, in person or online, people WANT to listen. They always have. I don’t have to use big-ass words to prove that I know what I’m talking about. Whether I’m being grandiloquent or using a more common elocution, people KNOW that I am insightful. None of my nine in-person or countless online apprentices have been TOLD to follow my instructions– they do it willing, because they trust my judgment. And so many people do.

              Did your panoply of autistically pretentious verbiage save you from being cast the fuck out by the ONA for being a charlatan? No, it didn’t.

              Maybe I write simply because I’m the one with a fucking AUDIENCE to write for, rather than an assembly of people I view as “lesser” for me to speak down to, as your conduct in the Facebook group you ran was described to me by three of your friends. Asshole.

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            15. I see! I see… Mmm, so you were the most mundane of all the mundane children? They even had to rework the mundanity charts in order to properly chart you mundaneness? Well! That is quite an accomplishment now isn’t it? And seriously, VK, are you bragging now that your ability to attract plebians with plebian speech is a praise worthy skill? Personally, if you cannot keep up with what I have to say, or the vocabulary with which I say it, that is your problem. I’ll leave you to coddle those who need it. I would assess you as one who had a firmer grasp on your idea of yourself, than your actual self. The hilarious element of that situation is that such is among the first issues addressed pertaining to genuine alchemy, but then you are a Demontologist or some such…

              Who do you believe has cast me out, with what authority, and from where exactly have I been cast, and where did I end up afterward? You have a great and profound ability claim, yet the most superficial attention to that claim renders it hallow and wanting.

              Again, you are that guy showing up at the very end of an awesome party, and then as everyone is leaving, you stand proudly at the door thanking everyone for having enjoyed YOU and YOUR party… So, ONA is YOUR audience now, lol, good luck with that. Considering the way things are going (exactly as planned) your obsession with Facebook is suitable, because before long, thats all Satanic-ONA will be able to claim.

              When you clam down and mature a bit, I will be waiting, but you now endure the longest and most difficult alchemical transformation, such that I would entertain your arrogance only to the extent that its flames are fanned and given grater life. The shovel is in your hands, VK, and the climb back out is directly akin to the depths and duration with which your former self has spent digging, and you dig well. Good journey to you.

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            16. Darryl: “(2) I attacked Yuri M because he dresses like a woman and is a bisexual and homosexual. I would mock him as thus regardless of my age or his own. You seem not to notice the Magians attack on the Sacred Masculine, which further demonstrates that neither of you know what the Sacred Masculine or Feminine is, and that neither you nor he, are genuine Alchemist. Invent all new “pronouns” you wish, and hold if you will a mouthful of penis… but know that your are an abomination, and praising the enemy camp.”

              Show me the alchemist who writes about fashion and I will show you a vain man trapped in his ego. Boasting about your heterosexuality, which you cannot control unless you are bisexual (and thus homorepressed as fuck), is the last resort of a desperate man. Tell it to the Sapphic & Uranian lodges of the order you’re obsessed with then, and have fun wanking it to lesbian porn in the meanwhile. Funny how all this “fuck gay people” spite comes up after Chloe speculates about your sexuality. Insecure much?

              Darryl: “(3) I have no emotional or egoic attachment to your internet post, I am not broken whatsoever,”

              And yet you’re clearly triggered as fuck.

              Darryl: “and had I deleted all of my social media, how then are all of my accounts still there, and how do we now have this conversation? You seem to be confused, again. All that was deleted was my Facebook account, which I only use on occasion say once or twice a year, and for no more than a few weeks at a time. If you makes you feel like a man to believe that you somehow “ran me off”, lol, I’ll allow you your moment, but then, here we are, talking, thus “ran off” I am not.”

              The existence of your WordPress account does not invalidate the sources reporting that you, at the time of my exposing you, (i) deleted your Facebook group because EVERYONE turned on you after what happened with me, (ii) spazzed the fuck out on everyone you knew who so much as liked a comment on my post exposing you, (iii) broke off ties with several ONA members I am not even acquainted with out of paranoia alone, (iv) constructed ridiculous theories that a mutual friend of ours and I had planned to sabotage you all along. If you’re not “run off,” explain what the fuck all that was.
              And no, I don’t consider myself “manly” for turning so many of your friends against you by showing them your conduct and causing you to retreat in the process. I adduce these occurrences because they constitute evidence that you are an unstable loon, and hardly the alchemical grand master or great leader you try to fashion yourself as.

              Darryl: “(4) Demonology must be the single most ridiculous form of the pseudo occult of them all…”

              Well, Kali certainly hasn’t taken you anywhere. You can’t even maintain a stable relationship.

              Darryl: “And you, young man, are indeed the very core of pretentiousness. Of all your “personally written chants”, and those five languages you used therein, how many of those languages did you personally write? I’d say not one.”

              Clearly you have completely missed the point of my mentioning the chants, which point should have been blatantly obvious to a rational and sane man. You insulted my vocabulary, so I adduced the chants section as evidence of how dope my vocabulary is. Fucking duh.

              And as for pretentious? You’re the one with an ideology named after himself– I just adopted the most relevant monikers to my beliefs and went from there. You’re the one dictating the parameters of a non-existent sociocultural renaissance, and you won’t catch me telling everyone how society should work. You’re the one trying to “fix” a big-ass group that doesn’t want you involved, which I never set out to do. And you’re the one bashing a magickal system you don’t understand, which I am rarely if ever seen to do.

              Darryl: “(5) Have you ever noticed, VK, that every time you attempt to brag on yourself, all you can do is point to preexisting religious systems, and boast “Look! Look! I have slightly altered and laid claim to this as well!” … Its cute, really.”

              Well, since there are thousands of people from many Western religions who practice Goetic and Qliphothic sorcery, and since I still manage to consistently provide some of the best insights into the practice(s), I must be some kind of mental giant. Become a leading voice in the Kali-worshiping community and then you’ll be on my level.

              Darryl: “VK. Seriously, who are you again?”

              Well, I’m the smartass who crushed your social networks, humiliated you, tarnished your legacy forever, and am currently mentoring most of the people you sought to mentor. You said you’ve done this for eight years, right? That means I completed the Qliphothic tree of death and several additional spheres while more than five years younger than when you got involved with Satanism. I’m the one who has more influence and more respect at my young-ass age than you ever had or will have. I’m the one providing the best insights into the tradition so I follow and being widely acknowledged for doing when nobody who worships Kali gives a fuck what you have to say about her.

              And yeah, I’m publishing a book through an established company while more than five years younger than the age you were at when you got into Satanism. Keep in mind that Chloe 352, being the leading voice in the order you couldn’t get any respect from, listed me in her article as an example of one motherfucker who’s doing this better than you ever did.

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            17. “Become a leading voice in the Kali-worshiping community and then you’ll be on my level.” – VK

              Agreed!

              Like a friend of mine once said regarding scientists and their work: “A peer review is only a peer review when you are a peer; otherwise, it’s just the opinions of an person who has not studied at university like a scientist, and does not have the data and instruments of a scientist.”

              The only people’s opinions that should matter to us are Peers – people in our respective field of interest who have manifested and accomplished similar things we have – and the opinions of those who more experienced/accomplished than us in our respective field of interest. Otherwise, they are opinions without substance and meaning or worth.

              Looking forward to your book BTW VK. I like your whole reading your whole wordpress. You’re very packed full of information! You’re obviously well read, and I can see you have a passion for the Western Tradition, and this specific genre of the Western/Occult Tradition.

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            18. Is that so, Chloe? Certainly then you could list the credentials by which your opinions are thus substantiated and meaningful or worthy? Please explain to us layman the exact nature of this special education and tools that you possess, which we mere mortals have no access to? My interactions with Kali have never led me to require memberships in human constructs, nor the approval or acceptance of other mortals. You guys are doing something terribly wrong, lol. We seem to have different Kali’s or something.

              Oh, and by the way Hunnybuns, your false and temporary affection for VK is laughably transparent. Do you remember when you treated me the same way all those years ago? I sure do 😉 . Others remember it too.

              Oh and I’m working on a reply to your “Notes on Darryl” post. You tell quite a story. My reply will tell the other half of that story, which you seem to have forgotten. No worries though, I remember for the both of us.

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            19. Darryl: “Oh, and by the way [Chloe 352], your false and temporary affection for VK is laughably transparent. Do you remember when you treated me the same way all those years ago?”

              Perhaps the reason that Chloe 352’s favor towards you dissipated is the same reason that every Niner I know who has ever associated with you has come to hold you in contempt: you’re a toxic person.

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            20. I am rather toxic aren’t I? Thanks for the compliment. What is it then, that you are doing? Being an average, go with the flow, tow the party line, sort of guy? Whatever works for you, man, but I’ll just be toxic, and let you do the whining and crying. Its good you’ve moved on to truly recognizing our differences though.

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            21. “Being an average, go with the flow, tow the party line, sort of guy?” Nope. Being a boss who’s completed the three, taken five martial arts, and humiliated you.
              Which party line am I towing? Cuz I’ve already defied both the 218, 7FW, and the Black Veil. The only bandwagon I jumped on is the one dragging you through the mud.

              “I’ll just be toxic, and let you do the whining and crying.” Sorry, who chased who off of facebook again? You’re a joke.

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            22. Look, kid, If I facepalm anymore I’ll completely flatten my nose, lol… Do I seem right now to be humiliated? You are the single most self obsessed and conceited individual which I have ever had the misfortune to meet, and now I have caused you to completely ruin your name for YEARS to come, lol….

              Not only does your entire identity seem to be based upon a single Facebook group, but it was I group that I owned. It was a group which I deleted. I was, have been, and remain to be, in control of this situation. For the love of all that is sacred, please give up this ridiculous internet wizard bit you have going. Its truly absurd in every regard…

              Either way, your several thousand comments about how great and wise you are, has played directly into my hand, just as I planned. Everyone is watching you, VK, as you navigate ground that I crossed several years ago.

              You cannot drag me through the mud, because I am the mud, and you are too stupid to recognize that I have lured you into my pit. Your boasting is cute though, so please, don’t stop.

              Tell me more about how you have mastered all fields of the occult AND martial arts. And you are, what, twenty something? You’ve certainly been busy then, haven’t you… LOL.

              For the record, you couldn’t possibly be more full of shit. Alchemy is a life long journey that is never completed or mastered, and I know individuals who have studied mixed martial arts for longer than you have been alive, and they do not consider themselves to be “masters” yet.

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            23. He boasts just like you. You are both full of yourselves. I don’t think your group mattered to anyone considering how short lived it was. That aside, you have a habit of leaving immediately after the bullshit drama so no wonder people tend to think they chased you away.

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            24. I have found that when you leave people to their own ideals, it hits them much harder when they much later come to see the full picture. People see what they want to see, and so I show it to them, or do I?

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            25. Not to burst your bubble, but “Do Not Trust D.M. Hutchins” has only gotten about 800 views so far. “Everyone” my ass. And again, there are a LOT of commenters bashing you, and none bashing me besides yourself. If this is what you consider a victory, that confirms everything I’ve been told about how hated you are.

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            26. I welcome your hate. Hate is a form of psychic energy, and once you learn to manipulate those energies, they can be transmuted into any other form of energy, psychic and otherwise. I’m not concerned with the variety of energy I’m offered, just keep it coming. Nom nom nom.

              Do alchemist now measure their success according to the number of hits on their low resolution Youtube videos? I must be getting old. There weren’t any mentions of Youtube in my Hermetic and Gnostic studies, but then I’m not a proponent of demontological psychobabble either… So… lol.

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            27. Since only a little over a hundred of those comments were this month, chances are no one has read your effusions. Bummer, I only debate for the sake of the audience.

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            28. Really? I debate because I am demonstrating and defending my values. Fuck what the audience thinks, I telling everyone what I think. I don’t have to do anything to maintain my audience. In fact, I could tell them to all eat shit, and they’d react by recruiting thirty more people to come and read my works… Perhaps you’re just trying to hard or something. I’m not sure what your trouble is. Personally, I just can’t be bothered to live my life according to what others think. You might try ignoring them and thinking for yourself. I highly, and while high, recommend it.

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            29. Welp, all of the five or six sources I have consulted abotut Darryl’s meltdown have confirmed that I did “chase him away.”
              Czereda, I’m told you and Fleming gave this poor boy hell as well. Yall probably deserve some of the credit. Do you really see his disappearance as anything less than a retreat?

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            30. It is yet to come; him being chased away. Those Asian bitches will screw him. They recorded him masterbating to Fleming’s photo. Tomorrow all tabloid journalists will have it. I kid you not. Just keep your fingers crossed.

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            31. “Do I seem right now to be humiliated?”
              Welp, you ran from Facebook. And your “straight pride” cannot be anything other than the defense mechanism of a self-loather.

              “You are the single most self obsessed and conceited individual which I have ever had the misfortune to meet, and now I have caused you to completely ruin your name for YEARS to come, lol….”
              You Niners always mistake me for arrogant. I am not conceited in my day-to-day life, I just look down on YOU. It’s a personal thing entirely contained to my interactions with the ONA, which is why nobody outside of the Order ever calls me arrogant.

              “Not only does your entire identity seem to be based upon a single Facebook group, but it was I group that I owned. It was a group which I deleted.”
              Once again, the only reason I keep bringing up the group is because it is relevant to THIS DISCUSSION. Chasing you off of Facebook isn’t even a footnote in my life, but it clearly changed yours.

              “I was, have been, and remain to be, in control of this situation.”
              You couldn’t even control a Facebook group.

              “Either way, your several thousand comments about how great and wise you are, has played directly into my hand, just as I planned.”
              And yet in my interactions with Temple Wilderness, I admitted not to have a fully-formed philosophy, not to have developed a comprehension of history, etc. I am only claiming to be wise in comparison TO YOU.

              “You cannot drag me through the mud, because I am the mud.”
              I mean I’ll admit that exposing you is a little redundant, with what an embarrassment you are already considered to be.

              “Your boasting is cute though, so please, don’t stop.”
              Alright, I’m calling it. You’re definitely gay.
              Chloe 352 probably doesn’t know this, but during the original fall-out between you and I, one of my gay friends was pretty sure he’d found your grinder account. Your railings against effeminate males and bisexuals are certainly reminiscent pastors who wind up getting caught on grinder too. When you take into account Chloe’s speculations, the evidence is really stacking up.
              Like, I don’t give a fuck if you’re gay, but seriously, you’ve got some un-repressing to do. It’s unsightly.

              “Tell me more about how you have mastered all fields of the occult AND martial arts.”
              You’re demonstrating your own failure of reading comprehension here. I haven’t even claimed to have mastered demon magick, the only paradigm I focus on. I may have finished the entire Tree of Death, but I still have a lot of learning to do, and I’ve ever denied that. You think that just because I claim to be incredibly more accomplished than YOU I must be claiming to be better than anyone.
              Shit, while I claim to be making the best content on the spirits of the Goetia and Tunnels of Set which I have covered (Second to T.B. Scott, of course), I have repeatedly said that there are a million and one people who could do it better than me. The problem is, they’re not.
              Also, I never claimed to have “mastered” all five of the martial arts I took. I took five of them over a course of 8 years—of course I didn’t master ANY. This is a manifestation of your own illiteracy once again. I have never used the word “mastery” in description of my combat skills. Once again, I am only claiming to be much better than YOU, because you never undertook physical training.

              “For the record, you couldn’t possibly be more full of shit. Alchemy is a life long journey that is never completed or mastered,”
              Name ONE TIME I have EVER called myself a master.

              “and I know individuals who have studied mixed martial arts for longer than you have been alive, and they do not consider themselves to be “masters” yet.”
              Please tell me you’re only feigning this astounding failure of reading comprehension as part of your “trap.”
              In closing, you are the mud. And you’re probably a bottom too.

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            32. Thank you for your commendations and readership. Your comparison of magickal peers to scientific ones rings true, and I am also glad to see you acknowledge the Western-ness of modern LHP traditions such as Demonolatry, rather than referring to them as “Jewish” like others have. Even if the roots of Demonology were filtered through Abrahamic Cosmology back in the day, the real roots of demon magick come from the medieval grimoiric tradition, which is Western, and were re-filtered through the lens of the Western LHP tradition.

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            33. @VK: LMFAO! That video was hella funny! I haven’t laughed that hard in a while! It’s all true! Darryl is a regular Sherlock Holmes… he’s figured us out! He caught you red handed!

              Keep the video up. It was cool! Good ole “don’t-give-a-fuck” humour is a great remedy for tiresome internet drama. People these days take shit way too seriously. One knows things such as Life, Love, and the Occult has lost its meaning, or never had meaning, when one takes such things seriously. In such state of mind where we can only see things from a serious/superficial vector, we become blind to what is beneath the surface.

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    1. If you like it so much, I suggest that you thank Temple Wilderness. I didn’t find anything. They sent me notice of the video the second it was posted. I can only imagine that they were hopeful to cause some sort of drama, however, I will not be providing them, or anyone else, with a show. For I, being responsible for my own emotional stability and social civility, will maintain an honorable tone and forthright manner. Post all of the silly pictures and nonsense that you like. It is far more a reflection of your personal characters than it is my own. If and when you are quite finished, I will still be a gentleman, and if any of you are capable, we can address and resolve this issue (whatever that happens to be), or you all can maintain this childishness on your own, and I will be on my way. Thus far I see a page filled with hallow nonsense and unsubstantiated accusations.

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      1. Always quick to put out a wall of text! I see no silly pictures on my end, Darryl.

        You will get the respect you’re asking for when you start proving you’re not a petulant child (as you’re about to do with a string of petty insults in response to this).

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        1. No, actually… I have no reason to insult you. You have only given me reason to question your truthfulness and sincerity, simply because you dodge 99% of the simple questions I present you with. It seems very much as though you either (i) have something to hide, or (ii) are hiding that there is nothing substantial therein. This is the truth, not a slander. The moment you begin to engage me with respect and demonstrate alchemical insights, I will return that level of respect unto you, but not before. Perhaps you could list my offered insults? I can’t see that I have said anything which isn’t already obvious and true.

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          1. Or perhaps we know that the moment we engage with you, you will demand we answer wall of text after wall of text. Not everyone has time for that.

            It’s simply pleasant enough to watch you demonstrate your gaping autism for all to see, and provide for others a cautionary tale of an ego gone rampant.

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            1. Is that so? It seems odd to me that you have infinite amounts of time to explain why it is that cannot answer simple questions, yet no time whatsoever to attempt answering even one of those questions…

              As for my ego, its backed up by an actual man… Can you say the same? No, you cannot. So hide bitch. Hide your cowardly identity behind false names and vomit endless excuses. The Numen you know not.

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            2. I don’t need you to tell me about Fleming, Anna… I’m near certain that I have had more personal dialog with the man than yourself, and I at no point in time stated that He, or any solitary individual, was behind this nonsense. Obviously this level of absurdity requires a collaborative effort and organizational skills.

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            3. You seriously believe that Fleming alone is running every ONA account online? Anna, if you don’t have something productive to contribute, I must ask myself why it is that you feel the need to make yourself a permanent part of every conversation I have in the public eye. You claim that I have an ego problem, but you seem to thrive on my blog rather than your own. Why not leave my ego and my blog to be the fools you believe us to be? Certainly you are welcome to share your perspective, but more than 90% of your comments seem to be fulfilling some desire just to see your name all over my post. If you think I’m an idiot, fine. Could you kindly go away, or at least bring some fresh content to the conversation. You have been posting “You don’t get it” for three solid weeks now, so either “explain it” to everyone, Oh Holy Insightful One, or post your profound ONA knowledge your own blog.

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            4. … ffs Anna, its a conversation about my person, right? If you hold me is such contempt why not be on your way? If I am an idiot and I don’t get it, why then do you post on ALL of my blogs, and further still anyone else blogs about me. As far as I can tell you are all in love with me, can’t get enough of me, and wait with bated breath for my next post… If I am so stupid and unimportant, why don’t you all find something else to talk about? You love me and you know it.

              How many time have the ONA kids all gathered to talk about you? How many times have you so threatened them that they gather together in an attempt to assassinate your character?

              If any of these lies about me were true, it would be a matter of public fact, rather than hallow accusations lacking any evidence. If any of you actually hated me so much, you’d not dwell on me and my productions as you obviously do…

              Why not simply walk away. You just cant. You are obsessed with me, and its obvious. Prove me wrong and piss off.

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            5. I’m not going to post any further comments on your blog since it seems to bother you. So now I hate you and hold you in contempt? I thought we were having a discussion. Only a serious discussion with you is impossible due to your constant backpedaling.

              “How many time have the ONA kids all gathered to talk about you? How many times have you so threatened them that they gather together in an attempt to assassinate your character?”

              More bullshit has been written about me than you, only as usual, you weren’t paying attention. I did my fair share of debating a few of the O9A grand pooh bahs though tbh our conversations were a little bit more sophisticated than the shit show presented here.

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            6. Your post do not bother me, Anna, you simply repeat yourself relentlessly. And whatever you feel about me, you feel it quite strongly, as you have spammed every post which I have posted for the last seven or eight years with “You just don’t get it”… So either come to terms with the fact that someone can simultaneously understand you, and disagree with you, or you are welcome to refrain from posting hallow statements on my blog… I’d thank you very much to make up your mind.

              I’m quite fed up with all these false accounts posting “I have more influence than you”, but all of these post seem to be about me, lol.

              You can claim that more has been written about youself than myself, but where are these individuals you have so offend, and how did you offend them, and if you have had so much ONA beef as I, well then, you must not get it either, right? lol.

              You see, Anna, when you tell the truth you don’t have to remember what your lies were, and when you live your life giving no fucks what haters say or believe, all the ONA can post a thousand of silly cowardly no-name blogs, and you simply shake your head, and keep doing what you do…

              The Numinous Era of ONA begins as of 2017… Deal with it.

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            7. I became interested in the ONA like three years ago so I couldn’t possibly have spammed your every blog with “You don’t get it” for eight years. Neither am I claiming that I’m more important than you. This is how the discussion with you looks like, you see…

              Just because you hurt Ms Chloe’s precious feelings and she’s calling you a faggot at every opportunity under a dozen or more sock accounts it doesn’t mean you are a threat to the ONA. The beef others have with you is strictly personal and due to your social awkwardness and confrontational nature, nothing more, nothing less. Your patronizing attitude, persistent pimping of your own works, getting into relentless arguments with people, banning them from the group and then picking on them etc etc all contributed to the fact that you’re generally disliked. Plus, you’re an easy target because your posts are simply utopian and immature. You’re picked on in every place you appear, somehow you can’t adapt to the group you’re in and navigate the terrain you’re on. Your childish rebellion is cute but there is no method to it. You want to tell the truth and convince others but who the hell takes you seriously?

              As for myself, I offended nobody. I don’t take the bullshit seriously. Nobody in their right mind will take my “conflicts” seriously. I’m just a drama queen. I argue for the sake of an argument and I’m all for free entertainment. Where there is drama, there is me. I can’t help my nature, I simply find all virtual dramas fascinating. I leave the mission of fixing the ONA or fixing whatever to those who love tilting at windmills, like you, but all those ludicrous articles about me written by Kerri Scott are there. I don’t even hate the woman, I even like her in my own way as you tend to like everyone and everything that entertains you.

              What you fail to see is that I also like you in my own way. Otherwise, I wouldn’t be sparring with you. I see some potential in you because you stay calm in the face of silly name-calling and behave like a gentleman, something I also appreciate about Aquino although I think he usually talks boring nonsense. However, being not easily provoked and not bending to the lowest level of slinging mud is also important.

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            8. You’re literally just a blogger. I don’t know why you keep typing out these autistic rants about how you’re some profound warrior, it really is quite funny.

              Did I hit a nerve there?

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            9. My nerves are fine. Tell me, what makes my blog just a blog, and your blog something more? Where have I stated that my blog was more than a blog. You seem to be arguing with something I haven’t claimed. Work it out for yourself, and if you don’t like my blog, simply don’t read it. I can’t imagine what compels people to offer their attention to something they dislike. Seems your nerves got hit.

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            10. Look at all these people you insist on replying and virtue signalling to. This is all going to remain on the internet for posterity.

              This is your legacy, Darryl. Raging at anonymous individuals because nobody will listen to you. Sad.

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            11. Actually these ONA blogs get taken down all the time, but if interacting with me is so important to you that you feel it merits preservation, I’d suggest backing it up in PDF format. And if no one listened to me, we’d not be having this conversation now would we? (facepalm) You could just go away and prove how meaningless I am, you know, but I bet you won’t. And don’t blame the ONA’s cowardice on me, its not my fault most of you are too insecure to announce your true identities. Thats whats sad.

              If my name is mocked, blemished, or slandered, its because I was man enough to put it out there. When others can say the same, it will lend some weight to their criticism, but until then, they can all hide, and troll from the safety of the internet…

              My name is Darryl Hutchins and I live in the Northern Carolinas of the Eastern United States, and I do not fear the anonymous internet trolls calling themselves ONA on the internet. Fact.

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            12. You only keep putting your name out there because you’re desperate for some recognition or attention. You would love nothing more than for the ONA to respond because it’s validate your deranged narrative and give your life some meaning.

              As such, they ignore and continue to ignore your pathetic posturing. We’re content to mock you with the least effort possible for now 😉

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            13. My name has been ‘out there’ for years now, and if any of you had some sense, you’d realize this issues is not about myself. Just because its news to you, doesn’t imply that its news to others. I have been rather consistent throughout the years, as has my level of attention, and sooo, the only thing coming and going would actually be those wana-be nexions hiding behind false internet accounts, like yourself. I’ve outlasted quite a few, and I’ll outlast you as well. You even have the nerve to say “we are content to mock you” but you all hide like cowards and talk a big game from the safety of the internet, and sooo, there is a me, but there isn’t a you…

              I have the exact level of attention that I desire, and from exactly whom I desire, and the irony is, that while I have many important things on my mind, your concerns are not among them. Always nice to chat with you though.

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            14. It’s odd because that “wanna-be nexion”, DC, isn’t hiding. Most of its associates are public online, some of them are around on Facebook and WordPress and it’s hardly some secret society.

              That aside, if you could only read between the lines, you would figure out that this bullshit drama is not really about you. You’re just a pawn, together with some other peeps perhaps. The Devil is in the details.

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            15. I say “wana-be nexion” in regard to all internet nexion (all parties offering hallow criticism from the safety of internet anonymity). I imply everyone in general and no one specific. I wouldn’t know about Facebook activities as I only briefly visit that medium from time to time, with no intention of memorizing names of individuals who claim this or that. No one has anything to prove to anyone else, and everything to prove to themselves. If you, Anna, are so in the know, might you please point me to the “nexion” that is making any headway in regard to manifesting a new breed of man? I’d thank you very much to point out the Satanic-ONA’s agenda being successful in any manner other than various pockets of people agreeing to agree with one another pertaining to this or that. I read only between the lines, Anna, and were you to take some of your own advice to heart, you might actually see me for who I am. Better yet, you might see yourself, for who you are. This has as much to do with me as an individual, as it has to do with ONA as a Satanic Tradition. Seek the Source, Resonate with the Numen, or be absorbed by the intentions of others, and suffer obscurity at the hands of Sorcerers. You have before you the choice of becoming the Magician or the Sorcerer. Only they who will not decide are Pawn, and they who are Sorcerers will protect the Pawns who empower them. Want to lure out a Sorcerer, attack their Pawns… Tick Tock… Mine is but one Numinous Way of looking at things. I suggest you observe them all. And for the record, there is no Devil other than yourself, which you allow to be. Assume personal responsibility and evil becomes impotent, their passes laughable…

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          2. I’ve debated Yorky on WordPress a bunch of times. Like, a lot. They answer my questions and respond to my arguments almost all of the time. In fact, I wind up leaving the conversation out of tedium before they do the overwhelming majority of the time. If they’re refusing to waste their time with your shit, that’s not a problem with them, it’s a problem with you. Sometimes you’re tedious as fuck and make ridiculous demands of your interlocutors. It’s you.

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            1. I find it interesting how everyone attempts to dismiss my “bullshit” while yet it brings all the Sorcerers to the proverbial yard, which is my agenda. Thank you for recognizing my success in that regard. Let me know when you have finished overwhelming Yorkshire Rounwytha. Once you have absorbed at least three nexion, I will bless you with the secrets of my tediousness numinousity.

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  2. LMAO @ Darryl!

    Hey Interogist 1… it’s been 8 years, how many other interogists have you made? LOL.

    Fucking pathetic hillbilly fag. Cock sucking Jew.

    Thought you left ONA in a cloud of butthurt? Thought you said you ain’t coming back to ONA?

    Pathetic. Incompetent. Impotent. Fix ONA? LOL. It’s been 8 years and you havent made a dent in ONA proper dude.

    THIS… is all you’ll ever amount to Darryl. All you’re worth. Year after year you keep manifesting the same end results. You try to change ONA… end up getting everyone around you to shit on you.

    That’s cool though. Some guys are masochistic and like to get shit on. Cuz apparently you thrive off this shit.

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    1. You err by orders of magnitude. I seek only to change and develop myself, and I have. Regardless of what I have or have not accomplished, I seem to have your attention secured, my presence threatens you enough such that you have become obsessed with slandering my character, and for the record, my blood is German. As soon as you are ready for a real discussion pertaining to something important, you just let me know.

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      1. real discussion???? between the aphasia that you call an intelligent thought and the diarrhea that you call an argument one would think that you were retarded, Community College. What is your IQ anyway fagg…err, D-d-d-darryl?!

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        1. Yes, a real discussion. An exchange of information lacking ad hom, hubris, and unnecessary cursing. I assume that you are addressing me publicly for a reason? Can you articulate that reason? Or are you merely seeking attention? Yes, for a time I attended a Community College. I am not embarrassed about that fact. Perhaps you can explain why I ought to be? Look up my college records and count how many times I made the Deans List, and if you are concerned with my IQ, you will find several records therein where as different test scored me between 131 and 157. So any time you are ready to make a case for yourself, lets have that discussion, and you can prove to everyone that you are worthy of the attention you are seeking. I’m ready when you are…

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    1. Of course though he is rightfully ashamed of this, and will go to great lengths to hide it. Although we joke around here a little bit, I knew one of his old friends-i’ll play his favorite game, not revealing any names-who confessed this to me. He doesn’t have much, but there is some in his ancestry on his dad’s side. So the story goes. Of course hell deny it whatever.

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      1. its true though other than a little jewish on his dads side he is mostly german from what i understand.The person who told me is reliable, but who knows

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        1. What is hilarious here is that you are speaking of “reliable sources” pertaining to my ancestry while you are too cowardly yourself to use your own real name. Even though I am not a Jew, I’d certainly rather be a Jew than a coward hiding behind the safety of the internet. My fathers family is German and my mothers family is British. There was far more Jew in Hitler than in myself. This whole character assassination you guys are attempting is having no effect on my person whatsoever. In fact, what you are doing here is making an utter ass of all things Order of Nine Angles, and proving the points that I have addressed in Corpus Nine Thirteen, and for that I thank you. Please continue

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  3. Haha. What’s up Mr.Downey.
    How’s the tattoo shop? D,whats up? Am I a known Ona mufucka yet or what. I been around since 09. What the fuck! Ave, Ivan the fkn terrible! Redrum!

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    1. What’s up man.. You still floating around just north of me? I closed my shop a while back… Ran into a string of bad luck (ie.. lazy ass tattooists don’t want to come to work). Fuck you been up to??

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  4. you are a loser and will always be a loser Darryl… the world was better before you were born and it will be better the day you are gone. Your contribution to anything meaningful is wanting at best. Your argumentation is confused, muddled and weak. Your social skills are lacking and your inability to see what has been right in front of you all along is remarkable. (it can be remarked on and is) lets face it you are a failure in every respect and deep down you know this. you are a target that can’t even stand its ground. Pathetic.

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    1. Oh look! Yet another lofty talking fake account. I’m so terribly effected by your hallow internet words. What ever will I do?

      (1) Would you address the element of my argumentation that you are confused about?

      (2) If I am such a failure, why then are there so many campaigns led against me? I must be doing something right to have all of you so very upset. If you were to come out of hiding we might talk about it.

      (3) If you guys represent having “social skills” I’d really rather not have any, so I’ll take that comment as a compliment. Thanks.

      (4) If you would label me a failure, you are inadvertently claiming to know what my goals are. Perhaps you could list them individually, and explain exactly where I have failed? I bet you won’t.

      (5) I know many things, for example, that I so terribly effect you all that you feel the need to take time out of your day and obsess with my person, lie about my ancestry, and wage propaganda campaigns whereas you are begging others to agree with you pertaining to your slander of my character, which only proves that my character must be a problem for you. Deal with it. My ground seems rather solid in fact. That it isn’t your ground seems to be the issue here.

      Have a nice day, ONA coward hiding behind the internet.

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  5. Darryl said: “As soon as you are ready for a real discussion pertaining to something important…”

    I don’t have “real discussions” faggot:

    “Not for the Order of the Nine Angles – or anyone connected with it – cosy intellectual discussions about obscure esoteric matters. Not for the ONA – or anyone connected with it – the scribblings of Occult internet forums where those who-do-not-know converse with those who-do-not-do. Not for the ONA – or anyone connected with it – any sincere affirmation of or any sincere identification with the ways, the politics, the religions, the world, of the mundanes. Not for the ONA – or anyone connected with it – some urban or suburban “Temple”. Not for the ONA – or anyone connected with it – ONA meetings, conferences and dialogues.” – ONA:

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    Hence, I don’t have facebook accounts, ain’t on forums, etc. If I or any of my associates have accounts in forums, it’s to troll.

    Besides: who the fuck wants to have a discussion with your ass? I mean look at you dude. You talk like a hillbilly. You write and interact with people online like you have a stick up your ass: like you’re pretending too hard to sound smart and intellectual. Learn how to use the word “whereas” correctly man. And you’re fucking autistic.

    Why can’t you keep it real like everybody here? I’m damn fucking sure that everybody in this comment thread can be intelligent and articulate when that shit is called for, in the right place and time. People who are genuinely intelligent, don’t have to try to look intelligent. Just like cool people don’t have to try to be/look cool. Cuz if you try: you ain’t.

    And what exactly who you be discussing? You and we all know that none of the thoughts you entertain in your autistic mind of yours are your own. Faggot: you don’t have a single original thought of your own. All your ideas came from somebody else. Work on being your own person first before you seek real discussion kid. You’re fucking 36 years old? You fucking retard. Do you know what the word “retarded” actually means? Look it up.

    Stupid faggot. Fucking cunt discharge. Your mother’s drunk whore cunt discharge something foul when she had you. Folks, this is what happens when you don’t practice abortion.

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    1. LOL. Its so cute when you quote your Bible that way, but I prefer to think for myself. Ultra-Violence you say? I’ve been inviting your violence for YEARS, and you haven’t shown up to demonstrate it. Mine is a matter of Federal record. Is yours? Your character assassinations are weak. All you have is “you used the word whereas wrong”… Oh my dark lord!!! I used a word incorrectly! There goes my week. I’ll just kill myself. Damn words, lol. You guys are a good laugh.

      By the way, bible quotes aren’t compatible with intellectual conversations, any more than calling someone a faggot or retard is compatible with having a worthwhile dialog.

      Oh no… the super elite ninja sorcerers of the ONA insulted my mother on the internet… What will I do now? lol. I do hope that you all realize that you are all providing the exact evidence of my judgement of the ONA. Just look at you all, in all your hubristic glory. You really have surpassed the mundane, just not in the way you think. You’ve beaten them at their own games.

      Oh how they will all bow to you, YOU, you new breed of mankind. Myatt would be so proud.

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  6. Welp, my information regarding you writing for the Green Trapezoid once comes from having read the zine series myself. You and I spoke regarding your connections to the Cult of Cthulhu when we were still friends. You certainly didn’t deny it at the time. I’ll dig up the article soon enough.

    But first, I have to address something you said which is rather infuriating.

    “To a certain extent, looking at VK is a bit like looking into a mirror. We have drastically different styles, and interest, but I see a similar gaining of ones feet that I myself once endured. I have learned that energy is energy, and so people can send me their love, their hate, and their curiosity, and I will have the same consistent and objective message for them to consider.”

    Quit acting like I’m some younger version of you. You were never like me. You avoided physical training because of a knee injury (shitty excuse) and I had taken five martial arts before I was old enough to smoke.

    As I’ve said before, I just want to help people learn shit about demons– you want to be peoples’ leader. You call yourself the interrogist and expect others who subscribe to your ideology to christen themselves with that title. You’ll never catch me expecting people who read my work to call themselves “Jehannumists,” even though many probably would.

    People are surprised when I say you’re 36. One fellow was shocked, remarking that he thought you were 19. You don’t have my maturity– even now.

    I believe your claims to having certain friends in the ONA, but I’ve only met two Niners/ONA-related individuals who respected you. Almost everyone in the ONA I know of hates you even more than they hate me, which is pretty fucking tragic considering the damage I’ve done to that movement.

    I have never exhibited your incompetence at building alliances. Ever.

    I heard about you talking like you were above me because you had corresponded with David Myatt while I had not. You’ll never catch me name-dropping in that cunty sort of manner.

    You claim that non-anti-authoritarians are not Satanists, but you’ll never hear me claim to have the right to exclude people from the title of Satanist myself because I’m not a control freak and I don’t share your mantle of false authority. I’ve seen you bash me for worshiping demons. I don’t bash friends or even ex-friends of mine for not being Demonolaters, because you and me are not the fucking same. I have PERSPECTIVE and RESPECT for others, which I have yet to see you exhibit without the motive being vanity. And honestly, you’ve probably never had as much influence as I do now.

    “With all due respect, and I’m being serious and not patronizing, if you would but calm down and stop approaching everything as though it were a fight, you’d find that there are many very cool people interested in your writings, but you attitude and constant attacks on things prevents you from being contacted by the. Trust me on this, I’ve been around a good long while, and I came in kicking and screaming too. Many Nexion refused to even acknowledge my existence, however, once I matured a bit and got my legs under me, and simply affirmed my position in a dignified and well produced manner, many, including TW came to have a chat, exchange information, et al.”

    I did not come out kicking and screaming. We were friends, remember? And then you had to go behind my back and slander me. This is YOUR fault.

    And as for calming down? I’m friends with Etu Malku after a LONG ass feud I had with him.

    You’ve had this coming. Accept it.

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    1. He couldn’t have corresponded with David Myatt. The only way to contact the man is through his buddies, the so-called Old Guards. And even then, you can’t be sure you are talking to the man unless you meet him face to face. An email can be answered by anyone and the style of writing can be emulated. This is why all this talk about certain academics, including Monette, corresponding with Myatt is suspicious at best. One can’t be sure that they corresponded with Myatt and not, for example, with Kerri Scott, unless one is willing to believe that all ONA socks are Myatt’s socks, which is all a big speculation game.

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  7. Thanks for being the voice of sanity here Anna 🙂 . You busted us this is a collaborative effort between VK, Wyrdsister, Chloe, various ONA OG’s you have upset over the years and some really bored Cascadians. We promised VK 260 grams of Cascadian Kush from our gardens and a 200 dollar gift card for Treadwells Books. It took some coaxing but when we added the 60 grams he jumped right on Youtube LOL. All we did was give you a sporting chance to defend yourself nothing more nothing less. @VK At this point you should understand our only differences with you are philosophical in nature.

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    1. We have a big round table we all sit at don’t we? Darryl’s head is on a dartboard behind us.

      Now send me some of that kush-

      666 Fellwitch Swamp
      Outlands, South Yorkshire
      England

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  8. The O9A has the potential to be so much more than this. There is a reason why TOB does not participate in these things.

    To those who understand those words, please, message me. This is quite frankly, pathetic, and speaks volumes to the reason why the O9A has in fact been ineffectual after nearly 50 years.

    Ryan, you are better than this. Please … rise above this folly.

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    1. While I feel that the Tempel ov Blood is far, far above the majority of the Order of the Nine Angles in “class” and their conduct, but I’m getting the impression that there’s something you don’t know. The following is an excerpt from one of the Temple of THEM’s book named Abyssal.

      “The ToB attempted to copy the ONA [unsuccessfully] with the Blood Current and failed because a) they openly stated they had come to replace the ONA, and said it on the ONA forums, b) they are associated with three very unpopular emotives in contrast to those merited by the ONA: i.e. the ToB represent America, Vampire, Usurper. There is no denying that the writings of Drill Sergeant 333 aka Baron Archaelus aka [insert name] are well-written and directed with a rare determination and darkness, but said individual himself has long since left the ToB [and begun the OAA] presumably because of the lack of inner direction of said Tempel and the stigma with which it scarred itself.

      “The Czar who leads it, Azag-Kala is also a refined writer, his works being remarkably and strikingly similar in vein and prose style to the works written by Anton Long, so similar that one could question whether the two were one: and yet this clever mimesis is doomed to failure because of the foundation and impression that was trumpeted loudly and first in the forum of the ONA. Out of loyalty, we left off aiding the ToB for a similar reason and the ToB’s private attacks on one of our other members caused an impersonal enmity between the Tempel and THEM to be made personal. We thus revealed all the ToB materials in possession within our archives to dissolve the glamour of mystery the ToB was trying to maintain by dribbling out its manuscripts and rightly so it had to guard against further revelation of its fragile imbalances caused by careless handling of its public affairs: especially in its avowed disowning of the Sinister Tradition of the ONA from which it drew/draws its inspiration and its model.”

      In addition to that, there is the matter of the Tempel ov Blood’s video of one of their operatives destroying the confiscated altar of an Anti-Cosmic sorcerer of the 128 Current (offshoot of the 218 Current followed by TotBL and MLO). The person who originally sent me the link to this video, which person is knowledgable concerning the personage of the Tempel ov Blood’s administration, sent it within a context which implies that the video was a statement of denouncement of the 218 Current in general.

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      1. “We thus revealed all the ToB materials in possession within our archives to dissolve the glamour”

        Correction: the SOLE member of Them, Kris McDermot had been speaking with Azag Kala for some time and put together a frankly unremarkable pdf of their correspondence entitled ‘Letterz Ov Blood’ of which I possess a copy (or did).

        Just because an anonymous person writes something on the internet, does not mean it is true.

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        1. Oh, I’m sure his view is skewed to some degree or another, but whatever grain of truth is in his account proves the point I was trying to make.
          If you are willing, could you send me Letterz of Blood, provided that you do still have it?

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            1. Hmm, seems I can’t find it unfortunately. I’ll keep an eye out. It was nothing of worth, beyond one conversation in there which alluded to Blood Pools- and again, it’s nothing none of us haven’t said before.

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  9. “Not for the Order of the Nine Angles – or anyone connected with it – cosy intellectual discussions about obscure esoteric matters. Not for the ONA – or anyone connected with it – the scribblings of Occult internet forums where those who-do-not-know converse with those who-do-not-do. Not for the ONA – or anyone connected with it – any sincere affirmation of or any sincere identification with the ways, the politics, the religions, the world, of the mundanes. Not for the ONA – or anyone connected with it – some urban or suburban “Temple”. Not for the ONA – or anyone connected with it – ONA meetings, conferences and dialogues.”

    Oh that’s a “useful indicator.”

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  10. As I have made a matter of public knowledge, the only rule for commenting on my website is that unapproved advertising is not permitted. The only persons whom I have allowed to do so in the past were D.M. Hutchins and Ryan Anschauung due to the regard I hold/held them in at the time of advertising. As such, all advertising in this thread has been omitted. I will not ban anyone unless this continues.

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    1. Kafir’s bedsheet of text, i707’d!.

      He again makes mistakes, confusing the banal Jungian psychology with Alchemy …

      ***

      And, of course, indicative: “…oh, everyTHING is a Chloe’s conspiracy !!111”.

      A thousand eyes of the chthonic Mother manifest themselves in the patterns of the web of the Abyss. “C~h~l~oe~eo~oia~eia~ei-an-ei~~ah~~~”, they whisper, penetrating the subcortex of Darriel’s inner skull…

      The Deorc goddess of radiation opens the panorama of alien existence, forcing segre-gates each focus point of dis-consciousness of Darriel… metallic voice breaks apart the Incorruptible silence of Infinity, a flurry of blades gutting his Ego. “Ana-Esh>>>Ha-Arhan>>>Aryarakh”.

      Humiliated is not asking. Offended will retaliate. Warned will have to wait.
      ~)Avanza carro avanza(~

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      P.S.: He believes, that VKJ associate themselves with the ONA, or it seemed to me?

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      1. Yes, he made it incredibly clear that he believes me to be a member of/associated with the Order of the Nine Angles. This is perhaps the most stupid conclusion a person could draw from my work, especially since I have personally and privately discussed the matter with him.

        But of course, D.M. Hutchins is not stupid. The reason, in my opinion, that he has taken to acting so stupidly and saying such stupid things is that his psyche cannot handle a person with my level of influence refusing to spare the rod.

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    2. “Trust me on that one, I found out the hard way, and I just as bad, if not worse, than yourself.The most tragic element of this stupid ONA comedy, is that you believe yourself to somehow represent the ONA, and that you will usher in a new breed of man, yet the most horribly ridiculous aspect of this epic joke (on you), is that you cannot even birth a new breed of ‘self’, much less change the entire world over centuries of causal time”.

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    3. “I am the Keystone of Truth and Conscious Evolution, hated by all, and yet empowered and amplified by their hate”.

      D.M. Hutchins (c) quotes of great people.

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        1. “If you are going to _fancy yourself ONA_, and challenge my position therein, it may help you to actually know a little something about either of us”.

          (c) DMH, the Great.

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        2. “…and Chloe has sank her fangs into you, in the hopes that you will spread her memes…”

          (c) DMH, the Great.


          ^,_,^

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    4. https://hutchinsdm.wordpress.com/2017/06/13/im-not-to-be-trusted-please-buy-me-food/

      And another one. This has been an amusing spectacle. Always fascinating how despite Hutchins’ insistence that everyone around him (save for himself, of course) is a duplicitous mundane void of integrity, he’s always the first to flip his standards in hypocrisy. In this comment thread alone we’ve seen him level accusations against VK that he himself criticized WyrdSister (and rightly so) of employing on his own blog. Apparently when someone with the documented screenshots to prove it establishes that you’re far from the ideological heavyweight you think yourself to be, all integrity goes out the window.

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  11. D.M. Hutchins has constructed a new article about me, apparently comprised entirely of callow misconceptions, puerile fallacies of reasoning, and bold and deliberate lies. I have briefly reviewed and rebutted the parts of the article I have had the patience to read in the following video. As I have not and will not read the entirety of the article failing a request to do so from a reader, anyone who would like specific points of the article addressed may bring them to my attention themselves.

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  12. >Replying to Darryl Hutchins

    And this is where you went wrong.

    Nothing good can come from that.

    He’s never had anything worthwhile to add to the public debate other than low-quality trolling; responding to him with anything other than pictures of his tattoos with a David’s star shooped in is a waste of time.

    If anybody knows where he really lives, hit me up.

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